bloomberg saying i will spend money, the same money the nra is spending. the pressure is different and i think the democrats and republicans who sort of have been in the nra camp are feeling pressure they never felt before. the nra doesn't have the power they used to. by the way, they didn't do that well. the candidates they supported during the election, their margin wasn't very good. >> and reading lapierre's comments, they weren't necessarily as incendiary when he really defended the rights of people -- the message is the same but the way he's saying is a little more subdued. >> it goes to our point here, they are under pressure. they are at attack with president obama with the security of his daughters back fired horribly. the audience is the hard core ar-15 owner, it's those in the middle that support gun rights but support gun safety and oppose crime. i think again, there is some pressure here on the nra to put more of a foot forward that can appeal to people beyond their core membership. >> let me bring in kentucky congressman john yarmouth. james b